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The conversation delves into California's new AI bill, exploring the implications of liability for AI developers and the ongoing debate about AI safety and innovation. The hosts discuss various perspectives from prominent figures in the AI community, highlighting the complexities of defining catastrophic risks and the potential impact on future AI development.

00:00 California's New AI Bill: A Controversial Shift

06:24 Perspectives on AI Safety and Liability

12:06 Navigating the Future of AI: Insights and Takeaways